http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/ logos designed to work. Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:53:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-23325 advertising agency york Mon, 31 May 2010 23:16:29 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-23325 Good response Rob. It was good to catch up with you on facebook. I will call you when back in the UK. Good response Rob. It was good to catch up with you on facebook. I will call you when back in the UK.

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-22076 Arbenting's Weekly Inspiration and Best of the Web #3 » Arbenting - The Act of Being Creative Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:29:26 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-22076 [...] Want a cheap logo? Go and get some clip art then – While the article focuses on logo design, I fully identified with it as a web designer as well. [...] [...] Want a cheap logo? Go and get some clip art then – While the article focuses on logo design, I fully identified with it as a web designer as well. [...]

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-21415 Graham Smith Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:39:02 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-21415 Yup, I agree. No right or wrong answer, all comes down to how you work and the type of work you are happy to attract and provide, not to mention the getting appropriate reputation. Yup, I agree. No right or wrong answer, all comes down to how you work and the type of work you are happy to attract and provide, not to mention the getting appropriate reputation.

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-26684 ImJustCreative Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:39:00 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-26684 Yup, I agree. No right or wrong answer, all comes down to how you work and the type of work you are happy to attract and provide, not to mention the getting appropriate reputation. Yup, I agree. No right or wrong answer, all comes down to how you work and the type of work you are happy to attract and provide, not to mention the getting appropriate reputation.

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-21376 rob Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:54:12 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-21376 Very interesting debate and I can certainly see from both sides. For most designers I would say they should have a fixed price ready for a client as 'price' is the number one thing people look for now. I can't think of many product/ services were you can't get an instant price. Having looked at your logo quote questionnaire I can see how a lot of clients shopping for a quick quote would be put off but as you say the more barriers you put up the better quality client you will attract. My guess is you are charging a little more than the average designer who reads these posts (tho your work is great! ;-) so for yourself personally I think the quote questionnaire and your price argument is fair and valid for the clients you attract - who are prepared to invest in a quality logo. For any designers charging £200 or less giving a fixed fee would probably suit them better. I think ultimately it comes down to how as a designer you want to market yourself fast/cheap vs quality/price. No right or wrong answer really. Very interesting debate and I can certainly see from both sides. For most designers I would say they should have a fixed price ready for a client as ‘price’ is the number one thing people look for now. I can’t think of many product/ services were you can’t get an instant price. Having looked at your logo quote questionnaire I can see how a lot of clients shopping for a quick quote would be put off but as you say the more barriers you put up the better quality client you will attract. My guess is you are charging a little more than the average designer who reads these posts (tho your work is great! ;-) so for yourself personally I think the quote questionnaire and your price argument is fair and valid for the clients you attract – who are prepared to invest in a quality logo. For any designers charging £200 or less giving a fixed fee would probably suit them better. I think ultimately it comes down to how as a designer you want to market yourself fast/cheap vs quality/price. No right or wrong answer really.

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-26683 rob Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:54:00 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-26683 Very interesting debate and I can certainly see from both sides. For most designers I would say they should have a fixed price ready for a client as 'price' is the number one thing people look for now. I can't think of many product/ services were you can't get an instant price. Having looked at your logo quote questionnaire I can see how a lot of clients shopping for a quick quote would be put off but as you say the more barriers you put up the better quality client you will attract. My guess is you are charging a little more than the average designer who reads these posts (tho your work is great! ;-) so for yourself personally I think the quote questionnaire and your price argument is fair and valid for the clients you attract - who are prepared to invest in a quality logo. For any designers charging £200 or less giving a fixed fee would probably suit them better. I think ultimately it comes down to how as a designer you want to market yourself fast/cheap vs quality/price. No right or wrong answer really. Very interesting debate and I can certainly see from both sides. For most designers I would say they should have a fixed price ready for a client as ‘price’ is the number one thing people look for now. I can’t think of many product/ services were you can’t get an instant price. Having looked at your logo quote questionnaire I can see how a lot of clients shopping for a quick quote would be put off but as you say the more barriers you put up the better quality client you will attract. My guess is you are charging a little more than the average designer who reads these posts (tho your work is great! ;-) so for yourself personally I think the quote questionnaire and your price argument is fair and valid for the clients you attract – who are prepared to invest in a quality logo. For any designers charging £200 or less giving a fixed fee would probably suit them better. I think ultimately it comes down to how as a designer you want to market yourself fast/cheap vs quality/price. No right or wrong answer really.

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-26411 brian Wed, 20 May 2009 18:21:00 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-26411 well that should keep me busy for the next day or so ;-) great stuff <i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://daily.creattica.com/2009/05/web-design-articles-inspiration-and-news-may-2009/#comment-14882" title="“Web Design Articles, Inspiration and News - May 2009” (http://daily.creattica.com/)" rel="nofollow">Creattica Daily</a></i> well that should keep me busy for the next day or so ;-) great stuff
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]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-26410 David Perel Wed, 20 May 2009 16:27:00 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-26410 “The Evolution of a Website Design” is a cracker of a post. Nice collection once again! <i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://daily.creattica.com/2009/05/web-design-articles-inspiration-and-news-may-2009/#comment-14872" title="“Web Design Articles, Inspiration and News - May 2009” (http://daily.creattica.com/)" rel="nofollow">Creattica Daily</a></i> “The Evolution of a Website Design” is a cracker of a post. Nice collection once again!
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]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-18333 Web Design Articles, Inspiration and News - May 2009 - Creattica Daily Wed, 20 May 2009 15:01:25 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-18333 [...] Want a cheap logo? Go and get some clip art then [...] [...] Want a cheap logo? Go and get some clip art then [...]

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-18169 DK Sun, 03 May 2009 15:15:39 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-18169 I know I will probably be heckled for these comments. However, while I understand why you say what you say, you have to understand the other side of the equation. I had my logo designed by professionals, and I had about 20 people I spoke to before choosing my designer. If I had to fill out one of the designer sheets for each designer, I probably would have used clip art to avoid having to fill out the sheets. I do realize that it may be a problem with some clients who are incessantly picky. But, thats the cost of being in business for ourselves. You have profit centers and drivers. Your logo "fee" may be the driver so that people use your services for other items like packaging etc which you can make a better profit on. They will want to work with you since you know their taste, and they know your work. Just my 2 cents. I know I will probably be heckled for these comments. However, while I understand why you say what you say, you have to understand the other side of the equation.
I had my logo designed by professionals, and I had about 20 people I spoke to before choosing my designer. If I had to fill out one of the designer sheets for each designer, I probably would have used clip art to avoid having to fill out the sheets.
I do realize that it may be a problem with some clients who are incessantly picky. But, thats the cost of being in business for ourselves. You have profit centers and drivers. Your logo “fee” may be the driver so that people use your services for other items like packaging etc which you can make a better profit on. They will want to work with you since you know their taste, and they know your work.
Just my 2 cents.

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-26409 DK Sun, 03 May 2009 15:15:00 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-26409 I know I will probably be heckled for these comments. However, while I understand why you say what you say, you have to understand the other side of the equation. I had my logo designed by professionals, and I had about 20 people I spoke to before choosing my designer. If I had to fill out one of the designer sheets for each designer, I probably would have used clip art to avoid having to fill out the sheets. I do realize that it may be a problem with some clients who are incessantly picky. But, thats the cost of being in business for ourselves. You have profit centers and drivers. Your logo "fee" may be the driver so that people use your services for other items like packaging etc which you can make a better profit on. They will want to work with you since you know their taste, and they know your work. Just my 2 cents. I know I will probably be heckled for these comments. However, while I understand why you say what you say, you have to understand the other side of the equation.
I had my logo designed by professionals, and I had about 20 people I spoke to before choosing my designer. If I had to fill out one of the designer sheets for each designer, I probably would have used clip art to avoid having to fill out the sheets.
I do realize that it may be a problem with some clients who are incessantly picky. But, thats the cost of being in business for ourselves. You have profit centers and drivers. Your logo “fee” may be the driver so that people use your services for other items like packaging etc which you can make a better profit on. They will want to work with you since you know their taste, and they know your work.
Just my 2 cents.

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-18148 Tom Vanlerberghe Sat, 02 May 2009 15:24:23 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-18148 On the other hand... a lot of designers and design agencies have been ripping off clients for years, with mediocre work and unreasonable pricing. Think there's no real pointable culprit here, but years of mismanagement on both sides... On the other hand… a lot of designers and design agencies have been ripping off clients for years, with mediocre work and unreasonable pricing.
Think there’s no real pointable culprit here, but years of mismanagement on both sides…

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-26408 Tom Vanlerberghe Sat, 02 May 2009 15:24:00 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-26408 On the other hand... a lot of designers and design agencies have been ripping off clients for years, with mediocre work and unreasonable pricing. Think there's no real pointable culprit here, but years of mismanagement on both sides... On the other hand… a lot of designers and design agencies have been ripping off clients for years, with mediocre work and unreasonable pricing.
Think there’s no real pointable culprit here, but years of mismanagement on both sides…

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-18146 Matt Simpson Sat, 02 May 2009 13:49:54 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-18146 Many clients just don't 'get' pricing for design work. The problem is perception and awareness - most non design people only know about $50 instant logos or £400k 2012 Olympic logos and are unaware what goes on in between these prices! I shall certainly be referring clients to this article next time I get asked how much.....! Many clients just don’t ‘get’ pricing for design work. The problem is perception and awareness – most non design people only know about $50 instant logos or £400k 2012 Olympic logos and are unaware what goes on in between these prices! I shall certainly be referring clients to this article next time I get asked how much…..!

]]> http://imjustcreative.com/want-a-cheap-logo-go-and-get-some-clip-art-then/2009/05/01/#comment-26407 Matt Simpson Sat, 02 May 2009 13:49:00 +0000 http://imjustcreative.com/?p=1576#comment-26407 Many clients just don't 'get' pricing for design work. The problem is perception and awareness - most non design people only know about $50 instant logos or £400k 2012 Olympic logos and are unaware what goes on in between these prices! I shall certainly be referring clients to this article next time I get asked how much.....! Many clients just don’t ‘get’ pricing for design work. The problem is perception and awareness – most non design people only know about $50 instant logos or £400k 2012 Olympic logos and are unaware what goes on in between these prices! I shall certainly be referring clients to this article next time I get asked how much…..!

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