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		<title>By: October’s Tutorial Roundup &#124; Castup</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-11396</link>
		<dc:creator>October’s Tutorial Roundup &#124; Castup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] White Space - It’s so underrated [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gearhed.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; October’s Tutorial Roundup</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-8817</link>
		<dc:creator>gearhed.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; October’s Tutorial Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: October&#8217;s Tutorial Roundup &#124; Tutorial9 - Tutorial Bliss.</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-8586</link>
		<dc:creator>October&#8217;s Tutorial Roundup &#124; Tutorial9 - Tutorial Bliss.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] White Space - It’s so underrated [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kathryn</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7918</link>
		<dc:creator>kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>white space is like silence - i love it but it makes many uncomfortable. Face what makes you uncomfortable.

Beautiful - but you know that.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>white space is like silence &#8211; i love it but it makes many uncomfortable. Face what makes you uncomfortable.</p>
<p>Beautiful &#8211; but you know that&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ptamaro</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7913</link>
		<dc:creator>ptamaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. Interesting comments.

Personally, I prefer the term &quot;negative space&quot; or even &quot;empty space&quot; because it has little to do with color (e.g. &quot;white space&quot; which isn&#039;t always white). We&#039;ve been using it at work more frequently lately to help us present data rich screens in a more organized and easily readable way rather than add an additional visual element to achieve the same effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. Interesting comments.</p>
<p>Personally, I prefer the term &#8220;negative space&#8221; or even &#8220;empty space&#8221; because it has little to do with color (e.g. &#8220;white space&#8221; which isn&#8217;t always white). We&#8217;ve been using it at work more frequently lately to help us present data rich screens in a more organized and easily readable way rather than add an additional visual element to achieve the same effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7875</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schwallex&gt; Im used to people like you, the legal profession is of self righteous, taking the higher moral ground types.

So I used a dash, it&#039;s a freakn post, not an award winning Typographic entry. It&#039;s the content, which is what this post is mostly about if you had bothered to really take it in, rather than surface skim it for imperfections.

Man, you have serious anger management issues.

Take a chill pill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schwallex> Im used to people like you, the legal profession is of self righteous, taking the higher moral ground types.</p>
<p>So I used a dash, it&#8217;s a freakn post, not an award winning Typographic entry. It&#8217;s the content, which is what this post is mostly about if you had bothered to really take it in, rather than surface skim it for imperfections.</p>
<p>Man, you have serious anger management issues.</p>
<p>Take a chill pill.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7874</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schwallex&gt; Wow, easy tiger.

I never claimed to be an expert at grammar or spelling. 

In fact I struggled academically, especially in Maths and English with early years learning difficulties.

I don&#039;t brag. I am proud about my experience. Two very different things.

So yes, I do struggle to be taken seriously by the likes of hot headed people as yourself. Who don&#039;t stop for one moment to consider that there maybe other reasons why &#039;this person&#039; has not lived up to &#039;your&#039; perfect views on the world.

ImJustCreative is me, and frankly your outburst is really quite offensive and not at all constructive.

It is YOU that should be ashamed to leave such a rude and hypocritical message.

I am sure you are perfect at everything you do in life, hat&#039;s off to you. Just don&#039;t &#039;down&#039; people who have to work very hard to meet the expectations of people like you.

To include threats in a post comment is just incredible, talk about shaming yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schwallex> Wow, easy tiger.</p>
<p>I never claimed to be an expert at grammar or spelling. </p>
<p>In fact I struggled academically, especially in Maths and English with early years learning difficulties.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t brag. I am proud about my experience. Two very different things.</p>
<p>So yes, I do struggle to be taken seriously by the likes of hot headed people as yourself. Who don&#8217;t stop for one moment to consider that there maybe other reasons why &#8216;this person&#8217; has not lived up to &#8216;your&#8217; perfect views on the world.</p>
<p>ImJustCreative is me, and frankly your outburst is really quite offensive and not at all constructive.</p>
<p>It is YOU that should be ashamed to leave such a rude and hypocritical message.</p>
<p>I am sure you are perfect at everything you do in life, hat&#8217;s off to you. Just don&#8217;t &#8216;down&#8217; people who have to work very hard to meet the expectations of people like you.</p>
<p>To include threats in a post comment is just incredible, talk about shaming yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Irizarry</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7787</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Irizarry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Graham!
I have thought that when a design has &quot;white space&quot; or is simple/minimalistic it can be used to draw attention to the site&#039;s content... especially in the case of a portfolio for a photographer, or designer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Graham!<br />
I have thought that when a design has &#8220;white space&#8221; or is simple/minimalistic it can be used to draw attention to the site&#8217;s content&#8230; especially in the case of a portfolio for a photographer, or designer.</p>
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		<title>By: Atherton Bartelby</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7784</link>
		<dc:creator>Atherton Bartelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post. As the sole senior designer in an office of over 100 non-creative financial brokers for over ten years, I cannot tell you what a chore it was to convince internal clients on a nearly daily basis that negative space was their friend, not their foe. You also touch on one of my other favorite design mantras: content is king. So true.

Awesome piece!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post. As the sole senior designer in an office of over 100 non-creative financial brokers for over ten years, I cannot tell you what a chore it was to convince internal clients on a nearly daily basis that negative space was their friend, not their foe. You also touch on one of my other favorite design mantras: content is king. So true.</p>
<p>Awesome piece!</p>
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		<title>By: Schwallex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schwallex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This entry strikes me as incredibly hypocritical alongside a logo that reads “imjustcreative” and an intro that reads “ImJustCreative is Graham SmithFreelance”.

Also, you should consider how ridiculously you contradict yourself by typing “My history IS typographic”. One of the very first things they teach you in typography class is that misusing capitals for emphasis is a heinous crime. Especially if you have proper tools at your disposal, such as the emphasis tag.

A professional typographer would never use a hyphen instead of a dash, either. You should be ashamed.

“Its not easy to be meticulous” is just pure comedy gold. Indeed, “its” not.

While we’re at it, learn to spell “videos” and “of course”.

I wouldn’t sound anywhere as harsh if this was an entry about Pokémon written by an eight-year old. But if you’re going to write about typography and brag about decades of experience, meticulosity, and whatnot, then you better live up to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entry strikes me as incredibly hypocritical alongside a logo that reads “imjustcreative” and an intro that reads “ImJustCreative is Graham SmithFreelance”.</p>
<p>Also, you should consider how ridiculously you contradict yourself by typing “My history IS typographic”. One of the very first things they teach you in typography class is that misusing capitals for emphasis is a heinous crime. Especially if you have proper tools at your disposal, such as the emphasis tag.</p>
<p>A professional typographer would never use a hyphen instead of a dash, either. You should be ashamed.</p>
<p>“Its not easy to be meticulous” is just pure comedy gold. Indeed, “its” not.</p>
<p>While we’re at it, learn to spell “videos” and “of course”.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t sound anywhere as harsh if this was an entry about Pokémon written by an eight-year old. But if you’re going to write about typography and brag about decades of experience, meticulosity, and whatnot, then you better live up to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7554</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TINA&gt; 
Wish I could help you with the Blogger theme, but I just don&#039;t know it to be able to point you in the right direction, but thanks for popping by. :)

LUKE&gt; 
Simplicity I think is often mistook for boring or unskilled, but that so is not the case, in the majority of cases ofcourse. 

JOSE&gt;
Glad to see you are passionate about it, it&#039;s not just a personal preference this whole space, clean, room to breath perspective, it really is a USABILITY issue, and should really be treated with more passion, just as coders do with the layout and formatting of their CSS code.

ANDY&gt;
I guess it would, hadn&#039;t really thought about the &#039;black space scenario&#039;, other than it look, ermm ,black and not white. I think there are perceptual difference with white space and black space as a colour over the phrase white space to just mean &#039;space&#039; in general. Good point though. So does this mean we are discrimination against Black Space, or whatever Colour empty space we use? Bah.

MARTIN&gt;
Actually, I havn&#039;t said nearly enough about it, and I guess you don&#039;t really want to put yourself or others in that position. Took me ages to edit, re-edit and edit that post to keep it a reasonable size. Blah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TINA&gt;<br />
Wish I could help you with the Blogger theme, but I just don&#8217;t know it to be able to point you in the right direction, but thanks for popping by. :)</p>
<p>LUKE&gt;<br />
Simplicity I think is often mistook for boring or unskilled, but that so is not the case, in the majority of cases ofcourse. </p>
<p>JOSE&gt;<br />
Glad to see you are passionate about it, it&#8217;s not just a personal preference this whole space, clean, room to breath perspective, it really is a USABILITY issue, and should really be treated with more passion, just as coders do with the layout and formatting of their CSS code.</p>
<p>ANDY&gt;<br />
I guess it would, hadn&#8217;t really thought about the &#8216;black space scenario&#8217;, other than it look, ermm ,black and not white. I think there are perceptual difference with white space and black space as a colour over the phrase white space to just mean &#8217;space&#8217; in general. Good point though. So does this mean we are discrimination against Black Space, or whatever Colour empty space we use? Bah.</p>
<p>MARTIN&gt;<br />
Actually, I havn&#8217;t said nearly enough about it, and I guess you don&#8217;t really want to put yourself or others in that position. Took me ages to edit, re-edit and edit that post to keep it a reasonable size. Blah.</p>
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		<title>By: ImJustCreative</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7549</link>
		<dc:creator>ImJustCreative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark&gt; It was true, it is just a play on words, jeans is correct. It&#039;s my insance lack of humour. It&#039;s funny to me, most other people get upset.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark&gt; It was true, it is just a play on words, jeans is correct. It&#8217;s my insance lack of humour. It&#8217;s funny to me, most other people get upset.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Mammoser</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7547</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina Mammoser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin sent me here and your white space is gorgeous. I&#039;ve strayed from the path I&#039;m afraid but you&#039;ve inspired me to completely redesign again. (I gather screen clutter over time.)

Just wish I could find a lovely simple Blogger 2-column template with tons of space!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin sent me here and your white space is gorgeous. I&#8217;ve strayed from the path I&#8217;m afraid but you&#8217;ve inspired me to completely redesign again. (I gather screen clutter over time.)</p>
<p>Just wish I could find a lovely simple Blogger 2-column template with tons of space!</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Holmes</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7524</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good advice, I completely agree-- and as a designer,  simplicity is still the way I think things look best. :D

@Mark, I am pretty sure Graham *meant* to type it that way. Clearly he didn&#039;t get it from his parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good advice, I completely agree&#8211; and as a designer,  simplicity is still the way I think things look best. :D</p>
<p>@Mark, I am pretty sure Graham *meant* to type it that way. Clearly he didn&#8217;t get it from his parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Blethen</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/talk-about-lack-of-white-space/2008/10/24/#comment-7519</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Blethen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Genes&quot;. Type can&#039;t look nice if it&#039;s a typo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Genes&#8221;. Type can&#8217;t look nice if it&#8217;s a typo.</p>
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