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		<title>By: Ahmed Elmasry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Elmasry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to know that you have been to Egypt !</description>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Elmasry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Elmasry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to know that you have been to Egypt !</description>
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		<title>By: A moment of childhood &#124; braincell soup</title>
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		<dc:creator>A moment of childhood &#124; braincell soup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I love this picture for which there is also a back story &#8211; ‘Egypt-Mother and Child’ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to this article http://www.tutorial9.net/photography/your-rights-as-a-photographer/ ; photographs which are considered &#039;art&#039; (and this includes photographs in an artist&#039;s portfolio) may be published without official consent from the people in the shot. However this varies from one country to another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to this article <a href="http://www.tutorial9.net/photography/your-rights-as-a-photographer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tutorial9.net/photography/your-rights-as-a-photographer/</a> ; photographs which are considered &#8216;art&#8217; (and this includes photographs in an artist&#8217;s portfolio) may be published without official consent from the people in the shot. However this varies from one country to another.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to this article http://www.tutorial9.net/photography/your-rights-as-a-photographer/ ; photographs which are considered &#039;art&#039; (and this includes photographs in an artist&#039;s portfolio) may be published without official consent from the people in the shot. However this varies from one country to another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to this article <a href="http://www.tutorial9.net/photography/your-rights-as-a-photographer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tutorial9.net/photography/your-rights-as-a-photographer/</a> ; photographs which are considered &#8216;art&#8217; (and this includes photographs in an artist&#8217;s portfolio) may be published without official consent from the people in the shot. However this varies from one country to another.</p>
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		<title>By: trewz.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>trewz.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great work, quite eerie but i love it!</description>
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		<title>By: trewz.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>trewz.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great work, quite eerie but i love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great work, quite eerie but i love it!</p>
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		<title>By: llapen</title>
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		<dc:creator>llapen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stunning.
&lt;i&gt;This comment was originally posted on &lt;a href=&quot;http://photojunkies.posterous.com/from-my-photography-portfolio-egypt-mother-an#pcomment_commentunit_90087&quot; title=&quot;“From my Photography Portfolio - ‘Egypt-Mother and Child’ - ImJustCreative” (http://photojunkies.posterous.com/)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PhotoJunkies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stunning.<br />
<i>This comment was originally posted on <a href="http://photojunkies.posterous.com/from-my-photography-portfolio-egypt-mother-an#pcomment_commentunit_90087" title="“From my Photography Portfolio - ‘Egypt-Mother and Child’ - ImJustCreative” (<a href="http://photojunkies.posterous.com/" rel="nofollow">http://photojunkies.posterous.com/</a>)&#8221; rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221;>PhotoJunkies</i></p>
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		<title>By: Pat Anzanello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Anzanello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it!</description>
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		<title>By: Pat Anzanello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Anzanello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it!</description>
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		<title>By: Karyn Romeis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karyn Romeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear. I&#039;m not trying to stir up a hornet&#039;s nest here. But being okay with a photo being taken is a long way from agreeing to have it published for all the world to see. For example, I once published (to my FB page) a photo taken at a barbecue at my home, in which some of our closest friends appeared. The wife contacted me and asked me to take it down. She was offended that I had not asked her permission to post a photo in which she appeared and considered it a betrayal of trust. She knew I had taken the photo and had no problem with that, it was the public airing she took exception to.

The &#039;children in bathing suits&#039; reference is completely lost on me, I&#039;m afraid. If it refers to perverts ogling pictures of children, and fuelling their sick fantasies, that is not at all where I was heading. It is quite evident that this picture is not of that sort. There is no argument that it is a picture that is both beautiful and innocent. That is not at issue.

Branden has said he sees &#039;no harm in this&#039;, but (and I mean no offence here) it isn&#039;t really up to him... or to me. It is up to the mother of the child. And she wasn&#039;t consulted (granted this was due to a language barrier, but the fact remains.)

Let me provide a little context. I sometimes design elearning resources for an educational body. In these we include photos of children to illustrate a point or to add interest to a page. In every case, unless there has been signed release from the parents of every single child in the picture, we may not use the image (in every case, the children are fully clothed, so the question of decency does not come into it).

When you upload images to iStock, you have to declare that you have obtained a release from the &#039;models&#039; to use the picture.

When you publish a photo on Facebook, you have to declare that you have the right to distribute the image. 

It is my understanding that no such release was given here. And this is the point that makes me raise the question.

Branden makes the argument that society has become over protective. That is a personal opinion (and possibly a valid one - this is not the place to have that debate), but the data protection act in the UK would probably prohibit the use of this image without parental release. Whether you, Branden or I disagree with the provisions of this act, it doesn&#039;t give us the right to ignore it as an inconvenience. Instead, if (as Branden seems to indicate) he considers it unnecessarily stringent, he should use the machinations at his disposal to agitate for change.

Apologies for the lengthy comment. I hope I have clarified my stance with no ill-feeling on either side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear. I&#8217;m not trying to stir up a hornet&#8217;s nest here. But being okay with a photo being taken is a long way from agreeing to have it published for all the world to see. For example, I once published (to my FB page) a photo taken at a barbecue at my home, in which some of our closest friends appeared. The wife contacted me and asked me to take it down. She was offended that I had not asked her permission to post a photo in which she appeared and considered it a betrayal of trust. She knew I had taken the photo and had no problem with that, it was the public airing she took exception to.</p>
<p>The &#8216;children in bathing suits&#8217; reference is completely lost on me, I&#8217;m afraid. If it refers to perverts ogling pictures of children, and fuelling their sick fantasies, that is not at all where I was heading. It is quite evident that this picture is not of that sort. There is no argument that it is a picture that is both beautiful and innocent. That is not at issue.</p>
<p>Branden has said he sees &#8216;no harm in this&#8217;, but (and I mean no offence here) it isn&#8217;t really up to him&#8230; or to me. It is up to the mother of the child. And she wasn&#8217;t consulted (granted this was due to a language barrier, but the fact remains.)</p>
<p>Let me provide a little context. I sometimes design elearning resources for an educational body. In these we include photos of children to illustrate a point or to add interest to a page. In every case, unless there has been signed release from the parents of every single child in the picture, we may not use the image (in every case, the children are fully clothed, so the question of decency does not come into it).</p>
<p>When you upload images to iStock, you have to declare that you have obtained a release from the &#8216;models&#8217; to use the picture.</p>
<p>When you publish a photo on Facebook, you have to declare that you have the right to distribute the image. </p>
<p>It is my understanding that no such release was given here. And this is the point that makes me raise the question.</p>
<p>Branden makes the argument that society has become over protective. That is a personal opinion (and possibly a valid one &#8211; this is not the place to have that debate), but the data protection act in the UK would probably prohibit the use of this image without parental release. Whether you, Branden or I disagree with the provisions of this act, it doesn&#8217;t give us the right to ignore it as an inconvenience. Instead, if (as Branden seems to indicate) he considers it unnecessarily stringent, he should use the machinations at his disposal to agitate for change.</p>
<p>Apologies for the lengthy comment. I hope I have clarified my stance with no ill-feeling on either side.</p>
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		<title>By: Karyn Romeis</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/from-my-photography-portfolio-egypt-mother-and-child/2009/03/07/#comment-26059</link>
		<dc:creator>Karyn Romeis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear. I&#039;m not trying to stir up a hornet&#039;s nest here. But being okay with a photo being taken is a long way from agreeing to have it published for all the world to see. For example, I once published (to my FB page) a photo taken at a barbecue at my home, in which some of our closest friends appeared. The wife contacted me and asked me to take it down. She was offended that I had not asked her permission to post a photo in which she appeared and considered it a betrayal of trust. She knew I had taken the photo and had no problem with that, it was the public airing she took exception to.

The &#039;children in bathing suits&#039; reference is completely lost on me, I&#039;m afraid. If it refers to perverts ogling pictures of children, and fuelling their sick fantasies, that is not at all where I was heading. It is quite evident that this picture is not of that sort. There is no argument that it is a picture that is both beautiful and innocent. That is not at issue.

Branden has said he sees &#039;no harm in this&#039;, but (and I mean no offence here) it isn&#039;t really up to him... or to me. It is up to the mother of the child. And she wasn&#039;t consulted (granted this was due to a language barrier, but the fact remains.)

Let me provide a little context. I sometimes design elearning resources for an educational body. In these we include photos of children to illustrate a point or to add interest to a page. In every case, unless there has been signed release from the parents of every single child in the picture, we may not use the image (in every case, the children are fully clothed, so the question of decency does not come into it).

When you upload images to iStock, you have to declare that you have obtained a release from the &#039;models&#039; to use the picture.

When you publish a photo on Facebook, you have to declare that you have the right to distribute the image. 

It is my understanding that no such release was given here. And this is the point that makes me raise the question.

Branden makes the argument that society has become over protective. That is a personal opinion (and possibly a valid one - this is not the place to have that debate), but the data protection act in the UK would probably prohibit the use of this image without parental release. Whether you, Branden or I disagree with the provisions of this act, it doesn&#039;t give us the right to ignore it as an inconvenience. Instead, if (as Branden seems to indicate) he considers it unnecessarily stringent, he should use the machinations at his disposal to agitate for change.

Apologies for the lengthy comment. I hope I have clarified my stance with no ill-feeling on either side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear. I&#8217;m not trying to stir up a hornet&#8217;s nest here. But being okay with a photo being taken is a long way from agreeing to have it published for all the world to see. For example, I once published (to my FB page) a photo taken at a barbecue at my home, in which some of our closest friends appeared. The wife contacted me and asked me to take it down. She was offended that I had not asked her permission to post a photo in which she appeared and considered it a betrayal of trust. She knew I had taken the photo and had no problem with that, it was the public airing she took exception to.</p>
<p>The &#8216;children in bathing suits&#8217; reference is completely lost on me, I&#8217;m afraid. If it refers to perverts ogling pictures of children, and fuelling their sick fantasies, that is not at all where I was heading. It is quite evident that this picture is not of that sort. There is no argument that it is a picture that is both beautiful and innocent. That is not at issue.</p>
<p>Branden has said he sees &#8216;no harm in this&#8217;, but (and I mean no offence here) it isn&#8217;t really up to him&#8230; or to me. It is up to the mother of the child. And she wasn&#8217;t consulted (granted this was due to a language barrier, but the fact remains.)</p>
<p>Let me provide a little context. I sometimes design elearning resources for an educational body. In these we include photos of children to illustrate a point or to add interest to a page. In every case, unless there has been signed release from the parents of every single child in the picture, we may not use the image (in every case, the children are fully clothed, so the question of decency does not come into it).</p>
<p>When you upload images to iStock, you have to declare that you have obtained a release from the &#8216;models&#8217; to use the picture.</p>
<p>When you publish a photo on Facebook, you have to declare that you have the right to distribute the image. </p>
<p>It is my understanding that no such release was given here. And this is the point that makes me raise the question.</p>
<p>Branden makes the argument that society has become over protective. That is a personal opinion (and possibly a valid one &#8211; this is not the place to have that debate), but the data protection act in the UK would probably prohibit the use of this image without parental release. Whether you, Branden or I disagree with the provisions of this act, it doesn&#8217;t give us the right to ignore it as an inconvenience. Instead, if (as Branden seems to indicate) he considers it unnecessarily stringent, he should use the machinations at his disposal to agitate for change.</p>
<p>Apologies for the lengthy comment. I hope I have clarified my stance with no ill-feeling on either side.</p>
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		<title>By: Branden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Branden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think the photo is fine. A society that is scared of itself and everyone around it isn&#039;t a society at all. The mother seemed to be okay with the photo in this case. You will always stretch into the debate about whether it&#039;s right for a photographer to snap a random picture or not. As long as your  not exposing the child in any kind of negative way I see no harm in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think the photo is fine. A society that is scared of itself and everyone around it isn&#8217;t a society at all. The mother seemed to be okay with the photo in this case. You will always stretch into the debate about whether it&#8217;s right for a photographer to snap a random picture or not. As long as your  not exposing the child in any kind of negative way I see no harm in this.</p>
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		<title>By: Branden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Branden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think the photo is fine. A society that is scared of itself and everyone around it isn&#039;t a society at all. The mother seemed to be okay with the photo in this case. You will always stretch into the debate about whether it&#039;s right for a photographer to snap a random picture or not. As long as your  not exposing the child in any kind of negative way I see no harm in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think the photo is fine. A society that is scared of itself and everyone around it isn&#8217;t a society at all. The mother seemed to be okay with the photo in this case. You will always stretch into the debate about whether it&#8217;s right for a photographer to snap a random picture or not. As long as your  not exposing the child in any kind of negative way I see no harm in this.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karyn-&gt; Not sure I fully understand the ethical debate. I showed the mother the photo and she was delighted with the pictures I had taken. Had she not been then I would not of taken it further.

Do you really think I am being irresponsible for posting a &#039;safe&#039; and &#039;respectable&#039; portrait that only shows the smiling head of a child?

Are you are going in the direction of posting pictures of children in bathing suits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karyn-> Not sure I fully understand the ethical debate. I showed the mother the photo and she was delighted with the pictures I had taken. Had she not been then I would not of taken it further.</p>
<p>Do you really think I am being irresponsible for posting a &#8216;safe&#8217; and &#8216;respectable&#8217; portrait that only shows the smiling head of a child?</p>
<p>Are you are going in the direction of posting pictures of children in bathing suits?</p>
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