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		<title>By: Century21 Logo - Functionality in Logo Design &#124; Products Brand Strategy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Century21 Logo - Functionality in Logo Design &#124; Products Brand Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Logo Design Toolbox: 60+ Resources for Logo Design&#160;&#124;&#160;meshdairy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logo Design Toolbox: 60+ Resources for Logo Design&#160;&#124;&#160;meshdairy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 60+ Logo Design Toolbox &#124; Cosmos Blog -- Internet News,Life,Culture,Polices,Resource,Make Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>60+ Logo Design Toolbox &#124; Cosmos Blog -- Internet News,Life,Culture,Polices,Resource,Make Money</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Logo Design Toolbox: 60+ Resources for Logo Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logo Design Toolbox: 60+ Resources for Logo Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
		<link>http://imjustcreative.com/a-successful-logo-and-identity-design-starts-with-a-solid-name/2009/07/08/#comment-19624</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really have misinterpreted the post.

I am focusing on the naming as being part of the logo and identity process. being in control of the naming then the creation of the identity is a good thing. You are working to keep all the aspects together and flowing.

If someone creates a random name, that frankly is inappropriate, then creating a decent visual identity becomes trickier. 

Having the foresight to acknowledge that the name and the visual identity are one of the same thing is good. Not having that foresight is not so good.

Sure, I work on logos with awkard names frequently, I try my best to create a decent visual look. But had that client not rushed into making up a name, somethign they dont have experience in doing, then they are not helping the cause.

It&#039;s all about looking at the bigger picture.

Your comment seems to be based on, client A, approaches Designer B, to design a nice logo for $300 and thats it. Logo done, end of relationship. 

That&#039;s not where I am, Im talking about more than &#039;just&#039; logo design... im talking about the whole brand identity, and that means the name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really have misinterpreted the post.</p>
<p>I am focusing on the naming as being part of the logo and identity process. being in control of the naming then the creation of the identity is a good thing. You are working to keep all the aspects together and flowing.</p>
<p>If someone creates a random name, that frankly is inappropriate, then creating a decent visual identity becomes trickier. </p>
<p>Having the foresight to acknowledge that the name and the visual identity are one of the same thing is good. Not having that foresight is not so good.</p>
<p>Sure, I work on logos with awkard names frequently, I try my best to create a decent visual look. But had that client not rushed into making up a name, somethign they dont have experience in doing, then they are not helping the cause.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about looking at the bigger picture.</p>
<p>Your comment seems to be based on, client A, approaches Designer B, to design a nice logo for $300 and thats it. Logo done, end of relationship. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not where I am, Im talking about more than &#8216;just&#8217; logo design&#8230; im talking about the whole brand identity, and that means the name.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would the name be a problem?? Is your brain that limited that that is all you can look at/see?? If you had to do a logo for Mother Theresa - would you continue to foolishly obsess that she doesnt have great tits (btw she does :or did :P) or that &quot;Theresa&quot; starts with a th and is does hard with people with a lisp to pronounce??

wow.... this gives intelligent and creative people a bad name 

&quot;Almost English Guy&quot; said it best
&quot;Sometimes in a logo design job, be found that company name short and long but it is the part of logo design to manage the problem and make powerful identity for their client&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would the name be a problem?? Is your brain that limited that that is all you can look at/see?? If you had to do a logo for Mother Theresa &#8211; would you continue to foolishly obsess that she doesnt have great tits (btw she does :or did :P) or that &#8220;Theresa&#8221; starts with a th and is does hard with people with a lisp to pronounce??</p>
<p>wow&#8230;. this gives intelligent and creative people a bad name </p>
<p>&#8220;Almost English Guy&#8221; said it best<br />
&#8220;Sometimes in a logo design job, be found that company name short and long but it is the part of logo design to manage the problem and make powerful identity for their client&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Show me some well designed logos! #29&#160;&#124;&#160;Design your way</title>
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		<dc:creator>Show me some well designed logos! #29&#160;&#124;&#160;Design your way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rajesh Pancholi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajesh Pancholi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just sat down with a client a few weeks ago, Sarah had a list of 7 names. None of them inspiring, I think see just done a simple google search within her field. 

We brainstormed over coffee at out first meet, which I think she was not expecting and a day or so later I sent her an email including her original list with 15 - 20 of my own. All of which fell under headings of &quot;Preferred&quot; to &quot;Not sure&quot;. She was very happy with the input and used the list to think further and choose a name....

What more can you do, the client only wanted to talk about costings and what sort of budget she may need to create her marketing collateral.

R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just sat down with a client a few weeks ago, Sarah had a list of 7 names. None of them inspiring, I think see just done a simple google search within her field. </p>
<p>We brainstormed over coffee at out first meet, which I think she was not expecting and a day or so later I sent her an email including her original list with 15 &#8211; 20 of my own. All of which fell under headings of &#8220;Preferred&#8221; to &#8220;Not sure&#8221;. She was very happy with the input and used the list to think further and choose a name&#8230;.</p>
<p>What more can you do, the client only wanted to talk about costings and what sort of budget she may need to create her marketing collateral.</p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it&#039;s part of the challenge. But equally, if we can simplify, that then helps reduce time, costs, budget and stress for both designer and client. 

So it ends up as a win win if you can build a smoother, more direct path</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it&#8217;s part of the challenge. But equally, if we can simplify, that then helps reduce time, costs, budget and stress for both designer and client. </p>
<p>So it ends up as a win win if you can build a smoother, more direct path</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, its only something that I figured out as well. Had just &#039;assumed&#039; they would realise.

What drove me to make it a issue, what a influx of &#039;identities&#039; that were a challenge to visualise due to the company/business name. If more thought had been put into the name, with the actual brand identity in mind, then it would have been so much more beneficial for all concerned.

I know as designers, we are tasked to do &#039;whatever&#039; with &#039;whatever&#039;. But simply just accepting that, and not making inroads to do something to make every ones lives easier, is just &#039;stupid&#039;.

So hence the post and now pointing it out on my website. Since this post, two new clients have approached me, asking me to help with the naming as well. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, its only something that I figured out as well. Had just &#8216;assumed&#8217; they would realise.</p>
<p>What drove me to make it a issue, what a influx of &#8216;identities&#8217; that were a challenge to visualise due to the company/business name. If more thought had been put into the name, with the actual brand identity in mind, then it would have been so much more beneficial for all concerned.</p>
<p>I know as designers, we are tasked to do &#8216;whatever&#8217; with &#8216;whatever&#8217;. But simply just accepting that, and not making inroads to do something to make every ones lives easier, is just &#8217;stupid&#8217;.</p>
<p>So hence the post and now pointing it out on my website. Since this post, two new clients have approached me, asking me to help with the naming as well. :)</p>
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		<title>By: GeoEgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeoEgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had always taken for granted that clients would assume that I was capable of assisting them with naming. Thank you for pointing out that this is not the case! I&#039;ll be making it clear on my portfolio site from now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had always taken for granted that clients would assume that I was capable of assisting them with naming. Thank you for pointing out that this is not the case! I&#8217;ll be making it clear on my portfolio site from now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a marketeer working on client side and I feel that it would only be completely arrogant and ignorant of me to name, art direct and manage the creative development of a new brand. I recently commissioned all aspects (including naming) to a design agency for a new brand and they LOVED it - a result of which is that they worked harder longer and with more passion on my project than they normally do. It&#039;s a win-win situation.

For designers working with difficult clients, I think that educating your client on the added value of letting go of their control or grip of their company&#039;s creative processes and handing that fully over to you is key.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a marketeer working on client side and I feel that it would only be completely arrogant and ignorant of me to name, art direct and manage the creative development of a new brand. I recently commissioned all aspects (including naming) to a design agency for a new brand and they LOVED it &#8211; a result of which is that they worked harder longer and with more passion on my project than they normally do. It&#8217;s a win-win situation.</p>
<p>For designers working with difficult clients, I think that educating your client on the added value of letting go of their control or grip of their company&#8217;s creative processes and handing that fully over to you is key.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Successful Logo and Identity Design Starts with a Solid Name&#160;&#124;&#160;Design Newz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Successful Logo and Identity Design Starts with a Solid Name&#160;&#124;&#160;Design Newz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Design your own logo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Design your own logo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes in a logo design job, be found that company name short and long but it is the part of logo design to manage the problem and make powerful identity for their client

Identity Design Useful article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes in a logo design job, be found that company name short and long but it is the part of logo design to manage the problem and make powerful identity for their client</p>
<p>Identity Design Useful article</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, I hadn&#039;t thought enough about  offering the branding name option to my clients, i did it some times but not like a really service a i can offer, but you just give me the little push to do it.
Thanks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, I hadn&#8217;t thought enough about  offering the branding name option to my clients, i did it some times but not like a really service a i can offer, but you just give me the little push to do it.<br />
Thanks!!</p>
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